An Introduction to Junior Interviews

by Patrick O'Connor, Ph.D.

It’s hard to believe counselors will be talking with juniors about college right after we get back from December break. If you’re new to this, here’s a quick tour on making the most out of these 20-minute meetings:

Graduation requirements Greet the student, ask them how the team is doing, then make sure they will have what they need to leave next June. You like them, sure — but they can’t stay.

Class schedule Students need to stay challenged senior year, and colleges care about rigor. Make sure their schedule does both.

Summer plans Students don’t have to go to Harvard’s Summer program, but staying busy and engaged keeps the student sharp, curious, and focused. Students who have to work or help family out will do that a different way — and if they’re looking for something to do, try this list.

Testing SAT and ACT aren’t the must-dos they once were, but they still play a role for many students. Discussing plans for prep, and for taking the test, still matters — and if they plan on applying to a test-required college, taking the class in the summer may be a good idea.

Campus visits If college is in their future, visiting campus, feeling what the place really is about, is vital, and it’s better to do that in the fall. If summer is the only time they can go, that works. Here’s the way to build a great visit.

Why college? Yes, you likely only have 20 minutes, but 2-3 minutes exploring the bigger question of “What’s next?” gives your work more meaning. Sit back, ask the question, and listen.

Building a list Many college-eager students will already have a list in mind, and that’s great. Get the list, and make sure it has 2-3 colleges that are academically likely, 2 that are (relatively speaking) more affordable, and one that’s close to home, just in case. The rest of the list is up to their interests, as long as they know the expensive schools and the popular schools may not become realities. If they’re OK with that, so are you.

Deadlines Many students are applying early action-decision-single-choice, or interested in rolling admission colleges where applying in the fall is a must. If the student doesn’t know about deadlines, urge them to do the homework and build a spreadsheet.

Teacher letters I’m a fan of asking teachers for letters in the spring of junior year, so teachers can write letters over the summer — since they’re busy in the fall, doing, you know, teaching. Two academic teachers from junior year who know the student well does the trick.

Essays You can’t really do justice to essay writing in this meeting, but it’s worth sharing some general ideas. Colleges will ask questions that require specific answers, but many let the student pick. Ask the student “What story would you tell a college that shows them who you are — not tells them, but shows them?” That will get them on the right track.

Paying for college Students aren’t always candid about this, but you have to ask if they’ve had The Conversation with Mom and Dad, if only to remind them this is important. Point out the timeline for FAFSA, and talk about scholarship sites — although I’m not a big fan of them.

What’s going to make a great senior year? Their answer will, hopefully, have nothing to do with college, and more to do with life. That’s good.

What can I do to help you? College is part of life, but they already have a life. Finishing with this question reminds them of that.

Watch Your State Legislature. Seriously.

by Patrick O'Connor, Ph.D.

In case you’re thinking the only two groups in gift giving mode this time of year are college admissions offices and Santa, let me tell you about my day yesterday.

My phone went off around 7:30, and even my children know they won’t get any money from me until at least 9 AM. It was a colleague from a college advocacy group, informing me that the Michigan state legislature was going to take up a bill that would basically gut all requirements for continuing professional development in college and career counseling. If passed, school counselors would meet the new, ahem, “requirements” by attending as little as one college’s update program, and one career field’s update, every five years.

So, what happens if a student needs the latest information on a different college, or a different occupation? Apparently, they are out of luck.

I called a few folks, and we put together an impressive piece of testimony against the legislation—even better, one colleague moved heaven and earth to get to the state capitol to deliver it in person. And while the legislation has made it out of committee, it has several steps to go before becoming law, and we are more than ready for the next few rounds.

Welcome to the wonderful world of lame-duck politics, where legislators finishing up their terms of office after the election—and therefore no longer feeling the need to be accountable to the public—do whatever they feel like doing. This is especially true when it comes to education, where many politicians are convinced they know how to run a school, because—after all—they attended one. Well-meaning legislators who used to be teachers are often even worse; there is a reason they are no longer in the classroom, and that can serve as the worst possible motivation behind a piece of legislation they are sure will cure all of education’s wrongs.

To be sure, most legislators are pretty reasonable people during a normal session, when bills aren’t passed in record time, with just one hearing. But there’s something about getting that Last. Bill. Passed. or righting that one educational wrong that makes them feel the twelve days before Christmas are the ideal time to give education the gift they are sure will keep on giving.

Of course, cabbage is also a gift that keeps on giving, but that analogy doesn’t occur to them.

So yes, you have more than enough to do this time of year already, and it wouldn’t really kill you to spend some social time with the people you share an office with. But legislators with one foot out the door can get a lot done in a hurry that can change your world forever. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to make sure you have some way of making sure you know what’s in their red satin bag—and if it’s coal, what you can do about it before it’s under your tree for good.

(By the way—if you are a Michigan resident, contact your Michigan state senator (do that here) and urge them to vote no on SB 1142. While you’re at it, contact House Education Chair Matt Koleszar (do that here) and urge him not to take up the bill for hearings if it makes it to the House.

The well-being of Michigan’s students and economy are at stake, and this bill is turning an important tool in honing that well-being into a box-checking exercise for counselors. Professional development should be about the students and fostering their dreams.

About Community Service

by Patrick O'Connor, Ph.D.

High school students, especially those of you applying to college, it's time to have a heart-to-heart about the meaning of community service.

Here's the deal: Chances are, the community you live in doesn't have enough money to pay for everything it needs. Some older community members could use a little company, or some elementary school kids may have nowhere to go after school. The DVDs in the library may need to be catalogued, or the local business owners could use a hand running the town Halloween party. The help may seem a bit random, but it's still needed.

Because you like where you live, and you want to keep it nice – or because you'd like to make it even nicer – you step up, pitch in, and help out people you've never even met before. It goes beyond serving you, it serves everyone. That's community service.

"But dude" you may say, "That's not what I heard community service is about. This dude spent $7,000 to fly to a town in the Himalayas and watch them install a water pump. He says probably nobody else did that, so this will give him a lock on a sweet college!"

To be honest with you, this dude is probably right – there are very few high school seniors with absolutely no plumbing expertise who would "work" on a community service project like that.

But that is a really good thing, because their own community could use their help.

Don't get me wrong: there are thousands of young people every year who donate amazing amounts of time and money to go to poverty-stricken islands and villages to make life better for others. Many of them don't speak the language, they work 14 hour days, and sleep on rock – and they are heroes.

What I continually see, though, are high school students who are convinced that all they have to do to be a hero or to catch the eye of a college is to go overseas. Our "dude" could have been a hero – if he gave the Red Cross the four grand needed for the pump, and spent the rest of his plane ticket on new gym equipment for the Boys Club where he could have volunteered five hours a week.

Of course, there's another big difference. You don't hear about those young people who donate time or money to their local community, because they don't talk about it much – in fact, it's often hard to get these folks to put this information on their college applications.

Why? Because it isn't about them, or their scrapbooks, or filling a college application with a "right" activity – it's about the people they serve. Wherever you serve, whomever you serve, real service only begins when you park your aspirations at the door and give yourself over to the work at hand. That's how parents change diapers, friends forgive one another, grandparents smile when you play the drums for them at age 9. It's why the comics section that flew from your Sunday newspaper gets picked up off your neighbor's lawn. But not by your neighbor.

Do colleges want students who engage in community service? You bet – colleges are communities too, and they'll have a few bazillion things that need to get done. People who show they're willing to make a difference in the community are a great asset to any college. Will they care if it's overseas? Not at all. As long as you hear the call for help across the ocean and genuinely answer, rather than go overseas just to say you went, your application will probably glow with the difference. But, additional local community service would show you understand charity begins at home, and that's not a bad lesson to embrace.

On the other hand, if you make it to senior year with 450 checker games under your belt and the eternal respect of the assisted living center down your block, that power will shine, too – and you can leave the long-distance duty for vacation.

Community service is about seeing what's possible for others, and what you can do to help them realize it. It's an attitude that will stay with you for life and transcend any college application.